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2014-02-13

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MerlynAuraid
MerlynAuraid
Phoenix_07, that's a good point...

Artists make their coats retired for a reason. And get half as many passes for those coats.

Now Howrse wants to re-release them again, to gain money? Surely the artists should be asked if they agree. Or get a little extra compensation since their artwork is being used MORE times than they initially agreed to...

And yeah, some other artists have used my linearts for their RCs. Some of those linearts I have now declared Not For Howrse any more; those coats are done, retired, finished. But none of us are going to be asked about this, or given any extra credit. Just Howrse who gets the money. :s
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Spyder
Spyder
MerlynAuraid wrote:

Phoenix_07, that's a good point...

Artists make their coats retired for a reason. And get half as many passes for those coats.

Now Howrse wants to re-release them again, to gain money? Surely the artists should be asked if they agree. Or get a little extra compensation since their artwork is being used MORE times than they initially agreed to...

And yeah, some other artists have used my linearts for their RCs. Some of those linearts I have now declared Not For Howrse any more; those coats are done, retired, finished. But none of us are going to be asked about this, or given any extra credit. Just Howrse who gets the money. :s

When an artist does something and gets paid for it they lose the ability to decide what can be done with that piece unless a specific agreement was signed stating that it is for one purpose only and cannot be used or sold without their permission.

Do we expect any of the top classical artists like Michelangelo to rise up from the grave and say no one can resell any of his pieces, even if he may have done a piece for a friend ( no pay) if that friend resells it ?
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lovetopaint
lovetopaint
If the players were all paid a pass for each time a rc they had went up with usages...now that'd be slightly different...not really though.
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Dr Zig
Dr Zig
Don't forget, if you are posting about stuff that is not actually on the game, you must use spoiler tags And this is not a chat room.
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lovetopaint
lovetopaint
I am not chatting...I am suggesting another solution.
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MerlynAuraid
MerlynAuraid
Spyder, maybe my point wasn't very clear... I'll try an actual example:

(in a spoiler tag 'cos I just saw Zig's post)

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You choose that your coat will only have 100 uses, and so you are paid the reduced price for that coat. You accept that price, trusting it really will have only 100 uses.

But now Howrse will let it be used 20 more times, that's 20% more than you both agreed, and what you were paid for.

Is that fair? The agreement is being broken, long after we agreed it.
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MerlynAuraid
MerlynAuraid
Oh, and

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You are correct though, that they have the rights to the artwork now. It's not a legal issue, just an ethical one.

(And that loss-of-rights-to-own-work is why I will never draw any coats again Artists should think carefully before submitting...)

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Dr Zig
Dr Zig
lovetopaint wrote:

I am not chatting...I am suggesting another solution.

That is chatting, as is all the complaining that has been going on in this topic, and all of the off-topic stuff, and the commentaries about supposed motivations of Owlient

The place to offer alternative suggestions is the testing zone, whenever that opens.

Ow posted a warning here this afternoon, and I suspect it would be a good idea for everyone to heed that warning
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