2010-04-03
Retired breeder
Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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  • 2023-04-20
    Flara Starburst wrote:

    What's everyone's favorite cross on TBs? I've crossed my mare with a good handful but curious to find out if one of them should be the next I put my AP into raising. Brought up my Polish Konik first and wasn't especially thrilled by him. Being ugly isn't helping his case though default smiley (lol)


    Personally, my favorite is Appy/TB crosses. They do pretty well in rosette level gallop comps, provided you ask a team for a high GP covering. I will say, though, that I’ve let my line slide since I don’t have as much time for Howrse as I used to. I’ve also done Vanner/TB crosses and been quite pleased with how well they do in reining comps.

    Has anyone done Criollo/TB crosses? I’m wondering if they do well in barrel comps but haven’t really had time to try them out.
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  • Ooooh I haven't done an app cross yet and I also tend to forget about the western comps so good to know about the vanners. I may have one that I haven't aged up yet. Currently working on my Mangalarga Marchador cross [url=https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=77388480/this gal[/url]

    Not worrying to to much yet about rosettes though my TB mare has managed 24 for me. Was hoping to snag the 50 rosettes and 50 with same horse trophies before she slipped down too low to compete but not sure that's going to happen. She's winning fewer and fewer every day default smiley (d)
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  • 2023-04-28
    Hello wonderful cross-breeders! I was wondering what determines the graphical appearance of a crossbred horse. Is it always tied to "dominant" bred (ie. what's listed as the breed in the breed section) or can graphical appearance and majority breed be separate things?

    Completely random breeds in an example but
    like if you have a 50/50 TWH x Irish Hunter sire & a 75/25 Canadian Horse x Hanoverian dam, what graphical appearance would the foal take? And is it random between pairings or can it vary with the same parents/breed percentages.

    Sorry if this is confusing, I tend not to explain things well.
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  • 2023-04-28
    SpottedFur97 wrote:

    Hello wonderful cross-breeders! I was wondering what determines the graphical appearance of a crossbred horse. Is it always tied to "dominant" bred (ie. what's listed as the breed in the breed section) or can graphical appearance and majority breed be separate things?

    Completely random breeds in an example but
    like if you have a 50/50 TWH x Irish Hunter sire & a 75/25 Canadian Horse x Hanoverian dam, what graphical appearance would the foal take? And is it random between pairings or can it vary with the same parents/breed percentages.

    Sorry if this is confusing, I tend not to explain things well.

    In most cases, the foal will take whichever breed has the highest percentage between the two parents. To find the breed percentages of the foal, just add the parents together and then divide by 2.
    Also, the foal's stated breed in its characteristics is always the same as its graphic.

    In cases when the parents share the same breeds evenly, the foal takes the dam's last listed breed. An example is Midnight Pearl. She is a Newfoundland dominant Tenn. WalkerxNewfoundland cross. Both of her parents are the same cross. She took Newfoundland as her breed, because it's her dam's last listed breed.

    In crosses where the parents are all different breeds, then the foal takes the sire's second listed breed in his genetics. Claire's parents are LusitanoxAppaloosa (Shadow the sire) and PasoxVanner(Tan, the dam). Claire took Appaloosa as her breed, because Appaloosa is her sire's second listed breed.
    If you're wanting to use Tears, I recommend breeding a test foal first, just in case there's a bug going on that produces an incorrect breed for the foal, which I've had happen before, but it's not common.

    For your example, the foal would be Canadian, because it'll be the breed with the highest percentage between the two parents. Its genetics would look like this:
    Canadian: 37.5%
    Walker: 25%
    Irish Hunter: 25%
    Hanoverian: 12.5%
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  • 2023-04-29
    I had pretty good luck with this Lip/Wari cross:

    You Can Call Me Al
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  • 2023-04-29
    Most of my Sierra horses (Paint) have 1% Spanish Horse. I have a Selle Francious that I would love to cross on them, but want the color. Is there any way that I can get a colored foal from Impulsive Actions on my Sierra horses? I even tried crossing on my Foundation mare, Sierra Sioux, and wound up with a solid.
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  • 2023-04-29
    ozkeweenaw wrote:

    Most of my Sierra horses (Paint) have 1% Spanish Horse. I have a Selle Francious that I would love to cross on them, but want the color. Is there any way that I can get a colored foal from Impulsive Actions on my Sierra horses? I even tried crossing on my Foundation mare, Sierra Sioux, and wound up with a solid.
    You'd have to breed your Paint cross to another cross in order for the foal to be Paint. The breed of a purebred will dominate the 99% of the Paint genetics

    Or, if you were fine with a 50×50 Paint/Selle cross, you'd have to use Paint as the sire, and Selle for the dam so that the foal will be Paint
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  • 2023-04-29
    ozkeweenaw wrote:

    Most of my Sierra horses (Paint) have 1% Spanish Horse. I have a Selle Francious that I would love to cross on them, but want the color. Is there any way that I can get a colored foal from Impulsive Actions on my Sierra horses? I even tried crossing on my Foundation mare, Sierra Sioux, and wound up with a solid.


    I'm a little confused by what you mean by a "colored" foal. If you mean that you want a Paint-dominant cross (the art for the horse would be a Paint horse), the only way that you can do that would be to use a Zeus' Bolt and change Impulsive Action to a mare. Foals from a simple two-way cross will always take the sire's breed (using a 100% sire/dam that are purebreds of different breeds). I notice you said that your Sierra horses have 1% PSH, this shouldn't affect the results. In this case, the reason why you got a solid foal is because Impulsive Action is the sire and 100% Selle instead of Paint. If you changed Impulsive Action to a mare and then bred her with one of your Paint stallions, you'd end up with a Paint-dominant foal.

    If you want to keep Impulsive Action as the sire, you could try a four-way cross, but it'll be a bit more complicated. The foal of a four-way cross where both parents are 50/50 crosses of the SAME BREEDS (it's different with different breeds) will take the dam's last listed breed. It's random which order the breeds in a cross are listed, but I've noticed that it seems harder now to get a foal with the non-dominant breed listed first. For my ongoing QP project, I had to breed 7 foals to finally get the cross that I needed. But results may vary. I wish you the best!
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  • My first homebrewed cross to earn a rosette! Very excited default smiley :-))

    Mr. Hyde
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